{"id":56758,"date":"2021-11-07T19:32:58","date_gmt":"2021-11-07T18:32:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/?p=56758"},"modified":"2024-08-12T13:35:54","modified_gmt":"2024-08-12T11:35:54","slug":"spoergsmaal-til-hans-ejner-bertelsen-og-tore-muller","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/spoergsmaal-til-hans-ejner-bertelsen-og-tore-muller\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8211; Sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5l til Hans Ejner Bertelsen og Tore M\u00fcller"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Debatindl\u00e6g fra Per Bengtson, Vodstrup:<\/em><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>MORS<\/strong>: Ved det seneste kommunalvalg i 2017 fik Venstre et virkelig flot valg med hele 6.042 stemmer, hvilket svarer til 48 % af stemmerne. Imponerende, men dog under halvdelen af stemmerne. Alligevel fik Venstre 12 ud af 21 mandater, hvilket svarer til et godt stykke over halvdelen \u2013 57 %. Mors\u00f8 Kommune er dermed \u00e9n af i alt 10 kommuner i Danmark, hvor der er et systemskabt flertal, alts\u00e5 et flertal, som ikke h\u00e6nger sammen med flertallet af stemmer.<\/p>\n<p>I debatten om Venstres absolutte flertal p\u00e5 Mors har Hans Ejner Bertelsen flere gange fremf\u00f8rt, at det da ikke kan v\u00e6re et problem, n\u00e5r det er s\u00e5dan, v\u00e6lgerne har \u00f8nsket det. Her tager Hans Ejner Bertelsen fejl. Det er jo netop ikke s\u00e5dan, v\u00e6lgerne har \u00f8nsket det, n\u00e5r under halvdelen af v\u00e6lgerne har stemt p\u00e5 Venstre.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sparv.dk\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-46602\" src=\"https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/t11.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1400\" height=\"125\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/t11.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/t11-300x27.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/t11-1024x91.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/t11-768x69.jpg 768w, https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/t11-600x54.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/><\/a>Det systemskabte flertal skyldes to forhold.<\/p>\n<p>For det f\u00f8rste den fordelingsmetode vi bruger i Danamark (den d\u2019Hondtske), som vi har brugt siden 1909. Matematikken i metoden favoriserer store partier p\u00e5 bekostning af sm\u00e5 partier, hvilket man blev klar over ret hurtig efter indf\u00f8relsen af metoden.<\/p>\n<p>For det andet brugen af valgforbund. I 1925 indf\u00f8rtes muligheden for at lave valgforbund. Dermed kunne sm\u00e5 partier g\u00e5 sammen i valgforbund for at \u2019oph\u00e6ve\u2019 noget af uretf\u00e6rdigheden indbygget i den d\u2019Hondtske fordelingsmetode. Men hvis sm\u00e5 partier g\u00e5r sammen med et stort parti, s\u00e5 kan det store parti derved f\u00e5 en yderligere fordel.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/thistedkloakservice.dk\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-46603\" src=\"https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/t12.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1400\" height=\"125\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/t12.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/t12-300x27.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/t12-1024x91.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/t12-768x69.jpg 768w, https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/t12-600x54.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Dermed har vi forklaringen p\u00e5, at Venstre fik 12 mandater, selvom stemmetallet \u2019svarer til\u2019 10 mandater. Et ekstra mandat fik Venstre p\u00e5 grund af den d\u2019Hondtske fordelingsmetode. Yderligere et ekstra mandat fik Venstre, fordi C, I, O og V havde indg\u00e5et valgforbund.<\/p>\n<p>I en nyligt udkommet forskningsrapport foresl\u00e5r de to valgforskere J\u00f8rgen Elklit og Ulrik Kj\u00e6r, at vi I Danmark indf\u00f8rer en mere \u2019retf\u00e6rdig\u2019 fordelingsmetode (Sainte-Lagu\u00ebs metoden). Denne metode har ikke samme matematiske uretf\u00e6rdighed. Hvis den var blevet brugt i 2017, havde Venstre f\u00e5et 10 mandater, som stemmerne indikerer. Til geng\u00e6ld havde Det Konservative Folkeparti og Enhedslisten f\u00e5et et mandat hver.<\/p>\n<p>Her kommer s\u00e5 sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5let: Hans Ejner og Tore, I har naturligvis ikke noget med systemfejlen at g\u00f8re, men vil I arbejde p\u00e5, at Venstre og Socialdemokratiet seri\u00f8st overvejer, om vi ikke skal have rettet op p\u00e5 denne 112 \u00e5r gamle systemfejl?<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em>Har du et bidrag til den lokale debat? Send det til os p\u00e5 e-mail: debat@kunmedierne.dk\/mors. Husk at l\u00e6se korrektur inden afsendelse p\u00e5 indl\u00e6gget.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/morsgaver.dk\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-51444\" src=\"https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/KunMors_julegaver_2021.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1400\" height=\"125\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/KunMors_julegaver_2021.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/KunMors_julegaver_2021-300x27.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/KunMors_julegaver_2021-1024x91.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/KunMors_julegaver_2021-768x69.jpg 768w, https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/KunMors_julegaver_2021-600x54.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h5>Tilmeld dig vores gratis nyhedsbrev nederst p\u00e5 siden og deltag i lodtr\u00e6kningen om en flaske portvin fra\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/prebensvinhandel.dk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Prebens Vinhandel<\/a>\u00a0til en v\u00e6rdi af 325 kroner. L\u00e6s mere\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/kunmedierne.dk\/mors\/vind-laekker-portvin-fra-prebens-vinhandel\/#prettyPhoto\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">her<\/a>.<\/h5>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Debatindl\u00e6g fra Per Bengtson, Vodstrup: MORS: Ved det seneste kommunalvalg i 2017 fik Venstre et virkelig flot valg med hele 6.042 stemmer, hvilket svarer til 48 % af stemmerne. Imponerende, men dog under halvdelen af stemmerne. Alligevel fik Venstre 12 ud af 21 mandater, hvilket svarer til et godt stykke over halvdelen \u2013 57 %. 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